AC or DC Wind Generator Motor?

Should your wind generator produce AC or DC current? This is a question you may not have asked yourself. Let's look at when you should use an AC generating motor and when you should use a DC generating motor.

Just to clear things up when I talk about an AC generating motor I don't mean an AC motor. An AC motor requires energy to charge up the electro-magnets within in. An AC generating motor has these electro-magnets replaced with permanent magnets. Basically, it's a DC motor that has been rewound so that it produces AC current.

Why would I want to produce AC convert it do DC to store and than convert it back into AC again to use? That seems very inefficient. You'd be surprised. If you plan on mounting your wind generator more than 100 feet or so away from where you plan to store the energy you're going to notice that the readings you get from the wind generator and the readings you get at the battery bank will be different. That's because DC is a very inefficient way to transmit power. You can't transmit high DC voltages so you have to transfer a lot of current which means you need bigger wires. Bigger wires means more money, and you'll still get some loss.

Special thanks go to Nikola Tesla the real inventor of our modern day electronics. You see, AC power can be transmitted at much higher voltages (lower amperage) through wire. What does this mean? Well, you can push a lot more power through that same size wire with AC (think of power lines they're quite small... if they were DC they would be many many times bigger). So you can transmit more power through the wire, but there's another plus as well.

The other upside of using AC to transmit is that it's very efficient. You'll have a lot less loss using AC over DC.

That's not to say you can't use a DC motor for your wind generator. As I said, if you're wind generator is within 100 feet of your home you can still use DC, but any further than that and you should switch to AC.

Also, if you want to squeeze a little bit more power out of your wind generator using an AC motor will cut down on power loss through the wire.

There's nothing really different about using an AC motor in your wind generator. The hook-up has 3 wires instead of 2 and you'll need to use a bridge rectifier to convert it to DC at your battery bank.

Where to find these motors? Well, a company called Windblue makes them. They're very good quality and I highly recommend them... they work great.

If you have any questions feel free to leave a comment.

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Thanks for the info

Your information help me a lot. Thanks!

wind motor

I have tries a lot of motors but never have I got the results I did with the Hurricane 1500 from http://hurricanewindpower.com ....the wind blue come down in a hurry...

You can use the power

You can use the power directly, but you can't feed it directly into the utility because it's the wrong voltage and probably the wrong frequency as well. You'd need to incorporate a grid-tie inverter to be able to do this.

Can i use AC motor in

Can i use AC motor in windmill and utalize the power generated by windmill directly without any battery bank, if volltage problem accor then can i use servo motor stablizer too. i'm waiting your reply, my email: shakil_syed1@yahoo.com Thanx

One thing you will need on

One thing you will need on your bridge rectifier is a heatsink. windbluepower.com has one or you can find one on ebay. Should the bridge rectifier fail it usually means you need a heatsink or you need a bigger one. I'd go with one at least 200 volts and 30% larger than you need. If you have a 1kw wind generator I'd go with a 200 volt 10 - 15 amp rectifier with a heatsink. If the rectifier should fail it won't cause any damage to other equipment. A failure will result in an open circuit so there's no risk in the event of a failure; however, just to be safe you could put a fuse between the rectifier and the batteries (this is DC so it will have to be high amps). I think I'll be doing an article on how to hook up both AC and DC sometime in the future as it's a little hard to fully lay out in a comment. Edit: The fuse should probably be before the rectifier just in case of a surge (lightning strike). That would blow out a cheap fuse and save the rectifier which is more expensive. I'll do up a schematic with multiple failure points to offer the most protection.

Ac Motor for grid link.

Yes. As I understood you, I can use an AC generator, rectify to DC and put the DC to my gridlink inverter, which will feed the grid. What safety measures do I have to watch for incase the bridge rectifer fails, causing AC to go to the inverter, or will failure simply interrupt the circuit. welshmx, Kake Alaska

You can't wire an AC motor

You can't wire an AC motor directly into the grid because the frequency will fluctuate. Converting AC -> DC -> AC is what I mean to say, but I probably could have said it better. If you're going to use an AC motor you'll have to use a bridge rectifier to convert it to DC Which can than be fed into your batteries your your gridlink inverter. Hope that helps.

Ac Motor for grid link.

Andrew, Iread previously that an AC PM motor is not safe for grid link. Why can't the bridge rectifier convert to DC for the gridlink inverter, which then converts it back to AC? We're converting AC to DC and back to AC for other applications. Did you mean not to hook your AC generator directly into the grid without taking further steps to put the right equipment in between? And what would the right equipment be, if any? Thanks for all of your previous clarifications, whick give me confidence in posing this question. welshmx, Kake Alaska

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